Posts by scared and lonely

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

scared and lonely

Markofcane

Thanks. You are right.

I hope that your journey ends well and you manage to escape relatively sane lol

It's a tough journey.

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

scared and lonely

I'm totally with Nathan Natas and Sparrow on this one: I'm floored that such a man-child as this was actually an appointed ELDER, out over other grown adults!

This is a fine example of what cult indoctrination and upbringing produces: A 28-yr old virgin who still lives in his parents basement and does janitorial work. Scrub toilets as a nobody by day, then at night throw on a cheap JC Penny suit and go Lord it over others as a some spiritual "Prince." Classic, just classic!

Why don't you go beg your WT Governing Body to help you out? After all, "Jehovah provides", as I'm sure you've told others as an Elder, right? They are your loving spiritual "family", so go forth, be warm and well fed and remember, even Jesus and the Apostle Paul didn't have a pillow to rest their heads!

So at this point I am in no mans land.

I am shunned by the organisation I am leaving.

Then I come hear to announce that I am leaving and get messages like yours.

I have held my hands up several times to apologise for my whiney over dramatic post and for the way I introduced myself to the forum. I deserved all the comments I received. I accept that.

What you have said has already been said. We have all moved on from my original post. Your post and bitterness was completely unnecessary and uncalled for.

People like you are reason i am so hesitant about revealing more information. I have no idea where your spite and nastiness would take things.

I have received messages from people who say that members like you spoil the forum for everybody else and you put people off trying to break free from the witnesses and seeking help from fellow ex JW's who have been through the same thing.

I honestly could not care less about your opinion of me but after what I have been through over the past few months I won't be put off by people like you and you ugly spitefulness.

I might not be in a good place but I am so glad that I haven't turned out as nasty as you.

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3 year old saying: "I wanna be Jehovah's friend", how would you answer?

by Daniel1555 in

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just looking for some of your views / advice:i am divorced and am together with my dear boy every second weekend for 2.5 days.

he is now 3 years old and heavily indoctrinated by his mum and grandmother.today he told me: "daddy, jehovah is high up in heaven.

we can't see him, but he is there.

scared and lonely

You don't want to mess with his little mind any more by confusing him at this stage.

As you still believe in a loving God, you can agree that he is up in heaven or wherever you think he is and just omit the name Jehovah.

You could explain to him that many people believe in God but choose to call him by other names.

You sound like a loving dad, not wanting to impose your believes on him or wanting to make it hard for him.

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

scared and lonely

Hi Acts5v29

I am currently working my way through my PM's so will reply to you as soon as I can. Thank you so much :)

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

scared and lonely

S&L, after yesterdays bit of a giggle, and reinforced by Cofty and Besty I am a 100% bona fide exjw involved in my own bit of activism and who would 100% respect anyone confidentiality here or anywhere, so anyone here revealing anything of a sensitive nature could be rest assured that it would not go any further, the reason I ask I do have a contact in the cleaning business who pays £8/hr in the London area the only issue is the need for an CSCS health and safety certificate

Thank you very much. A number of people have confirmed that you are one of the nice guys.

In hindsight, my stupid over dramatic first few posts deserved the abuse I got on the forum. I was an idiot and have come across so wrong. It has been a really stressful few months and I honestly think I have had a bit of a melt down.

This forum is helping me to put things into perspective and my future is looking a lot brighter.

That is a really kind offer and I am genuinely very grateful. I am outside of the London area (a lot further up the M1) and couldn't afford to move to London but I appreciate the gesture very much.

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

scared and lonely

Besty ..."don't bother revealing anything else that could identify you. there are people here in the UK who have been DF'd based on what they have posted."

Thanks for the advice. That is what I am afraid of. Thank you so much for your kind words and taking the time to post, It is appreciated very much. :)

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

scared and lonely

Jookbeard: S&L if you dont mind me asking what part of the UK are you from, and could you PM me the name of your cong and some of the names of the elders from your congregation?

Jookbeard, with all due respect, after what you did to me yesterday, I would never reveal anything to you. There was no need for you to mock me the way you did. I didn't deserve that, especially as you could see how sorry I was.

I am reluctant to reveal even my circuit, never mind the congregation or the elders. Outside of London, it is so easy to put the pieces together and I can't risk that at the moment. I know most of the people in my district because of one of the positions I held at the convention and a lot of them are aware of my situation and demise.

Most people on this forum have been so friendly and given great advice, but there is an element of people that I would not trust with such information.

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

scared and lonely

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

scared and lonely

Freddo

Thank you for taking the time to respond.

It is a long thread so I don't expect you to have read every post, but I can assure you that as the thread continued it got LESS panicky.

Also within 15 mins I removed any mention of financial assistance and got rid of the link. I would have edited the post and removed it completely if I could. I regret it very much.

You have to bear in mind that I have been going through the biggest life-changing situation in my entire life. I want to be free and for me the only way to do that is to move away hence the panic.

And yes, I guess I was dependent on the JW's. It is all I have known. I was completely immersed in the entire thing from birth.

The though of losing that network and being on my own does scare me. But I can see that others have been through the same thing so it has given me hope and realised that there are options open to me.

I have been doing a lot of research on this site and it has helped me to re-evaluate things and see that I have more options.

That is why I want to start a new thread and new profile so that the waters don't get muddied any more and I don't have to go over the same ground, just as I am doing here.

Thanks again

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

scared and lonely

Hi

Thank you very much to everybody who has left a helpful and supportive message. I can't thank you enough.

Yesterday was a bad day for me and my biggest regret was approach this forum the way that I did. I was literally panicking and at my wits end.

In the cold light of day and after reading the messages of brave people who have managed to leave the JW's, I am ashamed and embarrassed by my post. No wonder, some members have been hard on me.

A lot of my messages have been missed by some members who are calling me a troll or a scammer. Throughout the whole thread i apologised profusely and did all I could to rectify the situation.

I want to start again on this forum, because what I have learnt in less than 24 hours has been like an unveiling for me after a lifetime of being institutionalised. I wish I had visited here a long time ago.

Let me start again.

Is there a way that I can change my username to something less dramatic and more positive?

If not, then I will register again using a new name but for transparency's sake I will state in my first new post who I am so that people don't think I am trying to scam anybody.

I just need to address some issues:

1. Lack of information means I am a troll

I understand the concern. The main core of my situation is true. My vagueness of the details is not due to trying to scam anybody but because it took me a lot of courage to come here as any ex-JW knows after being repeatedly being warned about any site other than JW.org.

Also, I was wary because we are such a close-knit community. it wouldn't take too long for somebody to work out who I am if they wanted to. It does not take long for any JW to make a connection and know somebody in another congregation.

I accept that if I can going to receive the advice I need I need to be more transparent, so I will try to be although some of the comments here have made me realise it is not an entirely friendly and safe place.

2. I don't use the right terminology so I must be a troll.

This is laughable. I was brought up as a JW since being a baby. Most people I know still call the congregation overseer the P.O. (presiding overseer) and use the old terms. The amount of elders that still use the term "the society" even though we were told not to at the elders training school. That is not an indicator of me being a troll. I used the term watchtower conductor because most people know that is even if they haven't been to the meetings for years.

As I have said, so many times, I am truly sorry for the clumsy start. I genuinely want to put things right because right now I need all the advice I can get.

I'd rather start a new thread if I can and start again.

Once again, thank you to the ones who took the time to give in-depth posts of advice and for the private messages pointing me in the right direction.

I will personally thank each and every one of you via PM.

Kind regards